Glenn Beck and Donna Rogers v. Brannon Howse and Ed Decker
Ed Decker Responds to Donna Rogers' Article on the 9-12 Website Criticizing The Radio Program of Brannon Howse On Glenn Beck's Divine Destiny Meeting
After reading Donna Rogers' remarks regarding Brannon Howse's statement re: Glenn Beck's "Divine Destiny" movement, I would suggest that before she publishes any further criticisms of Brannon, she should at least do enough research to spell his name correctly. She should also take a good look at why Beck's claim of true Christianity causes so many Christian pastors and leaders to object publicly.
To begin with, she quotes one single comment from an hour-long program from which to launch her criticism, of not only Brannon, but also all the other Christians who are not fawning over Beck.
That said, I am touched by the zeal of her comments about the purity of Glenn Beck's purposes and his divine call to be today's King Hezekiah and like King Jehoshaphat in his work to restore the nation, but she misses the intent of Brannon Howse's statements by a country mile.
Using a similar, Biblical association, I would have to compare Brannon to the apostle Paul who, when warning about false teachers among the believers, said:
For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ. But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him. 2 Cor 11:2-4 KJV
You see, it is not Beck's good works that matter in the end. It is his testimony of salvation through Jesus that matters. Lot's of great men and women who do great works of good out there, bearing great fruit, but are decidedly not Christian. There are two kinds of fruit the Bible discusses. The fruit of your life to which Rogers refers with regard to testing Beck and the fruit of your doctrine , which Brannon and I clearly discussed.
It is back to the Question Jesus asked, "Who do men say that I am?" There-in is the rub and the danger to orthodox Christian doctrine when men like Beck, speaking as oracles of God, define faith, religion and right standing with God and feel compelled to draw the confused among us back to the core principles they so fully represent.
Let's cut to the chase here. Glenn Beck is a dedicated Temple Mormon who claims that 80% of the Mormon faith is built around the temple and the "Time and all eternity" effects of the rituals there-in.
According to LDS scripture and sacred instructions worthy Mormons receive in the temple, the god Beck serves is a physical, exalted man who lives with a harem of goddess wives on a planet near the great star Kolob. This god, Elohim, is the god of this one planet earth only. He is a man/god raised up from within this universe.
The God of the Bible is the One who created the universes. The Bible says that he is not a man, there were no gods before Him, none beside Him or after Him, and He knows not any. This True God created all the heavens and was before all creation. He did not have to earn his godhood being obedient to some other god up the chain of command.
Beyond that, As crazy as this may sound, understand that Glenn Beck learned all the secret/sacred signs, tokens and special handshakes he will need as he, hopefully, enters his own godhood, receives his own planet and goddess wives to help him populate it. Yes, Glenn Beck strives to become a god, himself.
The Jesus Beck serves, is not God come in the flesh. He is a separate 'god' who was elected to be our savior by a council of other gods. The Jesus of Mormonism is the spirit brother and equal of Lucifer until the council voted in Jesus.
This Jesus died on the cross so all mankind would be resurrected to be judged for their works, their obedience to the laws and ordinances of the [LDS] Gospel.
Sorry, Donna Rogers, this is not the God and Jesus of Christianity. They are distorted figures of a false gospel, the one Paul warns about in the above scripture.
You list a group of Christian leaders as though it would impress us that Beck has to be a Christian.
I say shame on them that they would sell their birthrights as pastors called to defend their flocks from false teachers and deceivers for bowls of porridge and a few minutes of stage time with this foolish, deceived and dangerous man who feels called to bring us all back to the truth.
While he is busy digging up pre-Columbian Hebrew scrawlings in Tennessee, trying to build a groundwork for bringing us all into the Book of Mormon fables, he ought to take a few moments and be honest about his true faith, the one he hides so well in his warm fuzzy way, the one where he is planning his own godhood.
Click here to hear the complete one hour radio program of Brannon Howse that Donna is criticizing:http://www.worldviewweekend.com/worldview-radio/episode.php?episodeid=17190
Ed Decker, founder of Saints Alive, was a Mormon for 20 years of his adult life. He was a member of the Melchizedek priesthood, a Temple Mormon and active in many church positions. Through a crisis in his life, Ed met the real Jesus and his life was changed forever.
An active author, speaker and evangelist, Ed has brought the light of Biblical truth to uncountable thousands of those lost in spiritual darkness. Today, the work of Saints Alive Ministries has expanded worldwide and includes ministry to other groups such as the Masonic Lodge. saintsalive eddeckerblog.blogspot eddecker.wordpress
Here is Donna Rogers' original article posted on the 9-12 website.
Glenn's Divine Destiny and Prayer Movement is Under attack
This letter is in response to Brannon House's statement: "With that said, Brannon believes Glenn has now moved into an area where we must draw a clear line theologically and doctrinally. While Christians can join Glenn in opposing tyranny, socialism, cultural Marxism, and the like, Christians should not buy into Glenn's pluralism, pushing event on August 27th at the Kennedy Center. Glenn's website describes the event as "Glenn Beck's Divine Destiny" and states that the event will include "uplifting music, nationally-known religious figures from all faith will unite…"
We all know Glenn is a Mormon and he has never hidden this truth from his viewers. Many people confess they are Christians, but the Bible clearly states you can identify true believers by their fruit-so we need to examine Glenn Beck by his fruit.
What has been the fruit of Glenn's show up to this point? I know it has caused multitudes in America to wake up and want to make a difference and no longer be complacent or apathetic. Furthermore, it has ignited a fire in us to start asking questions, be informed of what is happening in our country that the main-stream media doesn't tell us. We want and need to learn our history and Glenn Beck has been instrumental in bringing this about. Is this a bad thing? No, it is not.
As a matter-of-fact, Glenn Beck is today's King Hezekiah. Why do I liken Glenn Beck to King Hezekiah? Because Glenn, like King Hezekiah, does what is good and right because of his faith in God. His actions so far have been exactly what is required in order to usher in spiritual renewal. In 2 Chronicles 29-32 under the leadership of King Hezekiah, Judah began to experience a spiritual revival because:
1. He beseeched the people of Judah to return to the Lord. (2 Chronicles 30:6-9).
a. Glenn has been pleading with people to return to the Lord.
2. He kept doing what was right despite ridicule (2 Chronicles 30:10)
a. Glenn has experienced extreme ridicule and threats from people trying to silence him.
3. He aggressively removed (REPENTED) evil influences from his life (2 Chronicles 30:14 and 31:1)
a. Glenn has asked us to repeatedly not lie, stop doing wrong, to get right ourselves and to pray to God. Sounds like repentance to me.
4. He was open to spontaneity in worship (2 Chronicles 30:23)
a. He is inviting all people of different faiths to join in unity to worship with music and sermons given by our founding fathers
5. He contributed generously from His own resources which enabled God's work to continue (2 Chronicles 31:3)
a. He just wrote a check to cover the cost of the Divine Destiny event so it is for FREE.
Also, Glenn Beck is also like King Jehoshaphat who knew the people of Judah (America) were illiterate at far as understanding their history. History always repeats itself and we must look at our history so we can learn from our mistakes. King Jehoshaphat realized that knowing God's command was the first step to getting people to live as they should, so he initiated a nation-wide religious education program. Because of this initiative by King Jehoshaphat he reversed the religious decline that had occurred at the end of King Asa's reign by putting God first in the people's minds and installing in them a sense of commitment and mission. Because of this action, the nation began to follow God.
What about Glenn Beck's character? We love, accept and respect him due to his integrity (honesty), passion, transparency and doing what is right and honorable despite the great cost and defamation of his character. I believe the title of this event is perfect because Glenn is being used by God and this is Glenn's "Divine Destiny."
To say "Christians should not buy into Glenn's pluralism, pushing event on August 27th at the Kennedy center" is not right. You are implying Glenn believes and is deceiving many people that there are many paths to God and salvation. This is neither Glenn's belief nor the intent of this Divine Destiny event. The intent of Glenn hosting this event is honorable. Since its conception America has been a melting pot of diverse ethnicities and cultures and different faiths. It is in this vast wealth of different experiences and perspectives the people within our nation created a new cultural climate which gave wind to the human spirit.
Furthermore, I believe some of the Christian leaders which will take part in this event are the same spiritual leaders Glenn has had on his show and I believe they would not agree with your statement either. They are well respected religious leaders in the nation and they are NOT easily deceived. They are David Barton, founder and president of WallBuilders; Jim Garlow, chairman of Renewing American Leadership, Richard Lee is the founding pastor of First Redeeming Church in Cumming, Georgia. He's also the author of The American Patriot's Bible; Robert George is a professor of jurisprudence at Princeton University and the founder of American Principles Project; Dave Stone is a senior minister at Southeast Christian Church in Louisville, Kentucky, Tom Mullins is a senior pastor and founder of Christ Fellowship Church in Florida; Ralph Reed is the chairman of Faith and Freedom Coalition; John Hagee is the founder and senior pastor of Cornerstone Church in San Antonio, Texas and Stephen Broden is the senior pastor at Fair Park Bible Fellowship.
The Divine Destiny event is a perfect setting to accomplish uniting together for our common purpose: to help save our nation. Does it really matter that people of different faiths will join in unity for the purpose of getting in agreement that we want to save America? The objective of this gathering is not to bring about a one world religion. How do we know the Holy Spirit will not show up at this gathering and unveil the eyes of the deceived?
The intent of this gathering is to unite us in faith (whatever faith people believe in), Hope, and Charity (which is the "fruit" of our love). Glenn's mandate from God is based on 1 Corinthians 13:13, "Three things will last forever--faith, hope, and love--and the greatest of these is love."
Our country has never been more divided as it is now. We all have the same common denominator: To save our country. This core belief forms our alliance with one another to stand up and make a difference for our country. Individually we comprise one body for this objective: citizens of the United States of America. We are each individuals with different beliefs and passions. Rather than allow these different beliefs to be in conflict with our purpose we should use them to unite on the common ground we all share. The underlying factor which made America the greatest nation ever to exist was not our differences but those things which joined us together in unity. Our motives and intentions are "key" in everything we undertake and this is Glenn's intent for having this event.
The church should have been leading this initiative but God had to use Glenn Beck to accomplish His purposes up to this point. Why? The churches refuse to put aside their denominational differences to join in unity and repent and pray for our nation. Do you know how many pastors do not even want to pray for our nation or speak up for what is happening in our nation? So all of a sudden Glenn has overstepped his area of influence because he is calling for prayer?
Brannon, you know what I am talking about. When God gave you your mandate to go around the country to teach people what is really going on behind the scenes, the churches would not accommodate your mission and that is why you had to resort to using hotels to host your conferences. God can and does use anyone who is willing to be used as an instrument for His purposes to be accomplished. I wonder how many leaders in the main-line Christian denominations God tried to use, but they were unwilling, so He not only chose Glenn but gave him the platform on national television to accomplish His objective.
The viewpoint many Christians have of Mormon's, Seventh Day Adventist, Jehovah Witnesses, and Unitarians is they are all cults due to doctrinal differences. In other words, they are deceived by false teachings. While they may be deceived by doctrinal differences and have twisted God's Word and added to His Word doesn't necessarily mean some within their denomination have not accepted Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. I know because I attended Unitarian churches after I was accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. Glenn knows Jesus Christ is His Lord and Savior and is his redeemer and he makes it a point to always point to Jesus and not himself on his show and in his speeches. Glenn may be Mormon, but he looks, talks and ACTS like a true believer to me. His fruit says everything.
Many people I know including myself spent many years exploring and seeking different paths (religion) before our eyes were unveiled and we were no longer deceived. It is the HOLY SPIRIT which will guide a person to the absolute truth as stated in John 14:6, "Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." It is only by God's divine providence, mercy and grace I was shown the truth.
The Holy Spirit finally led me to the true path which is non-denominational and having a personal relationship with Jesus is more important than the church I attend. I am a Spirit filled Christian who believes Jesus Christ is the son of God and shed his precious blood at Calvary for our sins. I am a child of God because I believe Jesus Christ is the only path to salvation. But more importantly, I am a child of God because I live my life in accordance with His Word to the best of my ability. I am not saying I am perfect, because we all have areas which need to be changed by the power of the Holy Spirit. This is why God's word says we need to work out our salvation with fear and trembling.
One does not need to be linked to a particular denomination to be a true child of Jesus Christ. When we all stand before him on judgment day he will not ask you what church you attended or what denomination you belong to. Our eternal destination will be the based on what we truly believe.
we all are quick to judge each other and say this denomination is wrong because….you name it there is a lot of division because of this. The truth is the only one with the right to judge any individual is Jesus himself because he sees the heart.
There are many wolves in sheep's clothing across America and they will be one of the first in line to discredit Glenn Beck because he is a Mormon. For example:
Let's take the Catholic Church. We consider them to be Christians. Why do they teach you need to see a priest for your sins to be forgiven when Jesus Christ is our high priest who forgives sins? Why do they have their members "pay" to get their loved ones out of purgatory?
Let's take most Baptist denominations who deny the Power of the Holy Spirit and the gifts of speaking in tongues, healing, deliverance, etc.
what about the churches which proclaim all the promises of God yet do not teach about God's requirements in order to receive the promises? These are the same churches who tell you to come as you are and unfortunately the people who attend leave the same way.
How about the denominations who teach once saved always saved which is a lie from the pit of hell and is leading more to the gates of hell than any other false teaching?
How about the fact a lot of Christians harbor unforgiveness, malice, bitterness and do not exhibit the love which we are commanded to. Does this make us not Christians? According to God's Word it does.
If we look to the Bible as the absolute truth most people professing to be Christians do not exhibit the fruit of the spirit in their lives. In John 14:15, Jesus said, "If you love me you will obey my commandments." How many professing Christians read His Word yet do not "do" what it says? Yet they are the first to point out the wrong doctrines of other denominations.
What was Jesus' attitude about the religious leaders-the Pharisees and Sadducees? They believed they were righteous and knew best. How many in the church are Pharisees and Sadducees who think they have all the answers and yet are deceived? Jesus did not have many kind words for these leaders because their hearts were far from them. As a matter-of-fact, Jesus' had much anger and righteous indignation because these leaders twisted his word and then they heaped the people under them with more rules and regulations they themselves chose not to keep. They were hypocrites. He called them a brood of vipers! As you know there are many leaders in the body of Christ who are just like the Pharisees and Sadducees and they are leading their flocks straight to the gate of hell with their false teachings, political correctness, one-sided teaching of the gospel, etc.
In the story of the Samaritan woman at the well in John 4, both the Jews and Samaritans claimed to be true, descendant of the nation of Israel. The Jews believe the Samaritans were not pure from a religious viewpoint. Jesus went against what most Jews would do when he went out of his way to not only talk with this woman but more importantly, he revealed His true identity to her and as a result she went and told the whole village about the Messiah and they also believed in Him. The Jews who believed they were pure from a religious standpoint rejected the Messiah.
There is a lot to be learned from this story. Like Jesus we should associate with others who hold a different belief than ours and use the opportunity to reveal Jesus to them by how we treat and interact with them. The truth is there are very few "true" children of God. Should we ridicule and not associate with the rest who are deceived? No. This is a great opportunity to gently come along side them in love and plant and water the seed. The rest is up to the Holy Spirit. We are to view those that are deceived as being held captive by Satan just like we were before we came into the knowledge of the truth and treat them gently with love so we can win them over. Instead we point our fingers at them and say, "You are wrong, we are right, I choose not to associate with you and will surround myself with like-minded individuals." I have a friend who is Muslim and she is kind loving person. We agree to disagree on our religious standpoints and have built a relationship with one another based on mutual respect instead. I believe this is what Jesus had in mind when we are commanded to love one another not assassinate each other based on what we believe. On a side note, the problem I have with President Obama is not the fact he is probably a Muslim. It is the fact he professes to be a Christian BUT his "fruit" says otherwise.
In closing, I will continue to be loyal to Glenn Beck and will rejoice with him and mourn when he is persecuted for doing right. I will cheer him onto victory. I am grateful for all he has done to ignite the flame of unity and awaken America from her slumber. And last, but not least, I am not going to throw him under the bus because one show was perceived as pushing his Mormon faith. I wonder if the woman who brought this one show to your attention watches Glenn every day.
Brannon, do you really believe Glenn's agenda is to push his faith on people? I watch his show EVERY day and to date his red phone has never received a call from the White House to say he is wrong with what he is reporting. As a matter-of-fact, if Glenn reported anything in error he would be quickly burned at the stake and have a lawsuit slapped on him. Glenn tells us almost on a daily basis, "Question with boldness everything you hear even from me. Find out for yourselves the truth." It is up to each individual to find out the truth for themselves concerning everything including their religious beliefs.
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