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CHRISTIPEDIA™ Inerrant Scripture: Is "Church" over the Bible? Or is the Bible over the Church? PART-1; (All CHRISTIPEDIA with "INSPIRED-INERRANT!" View of Scripture!) This is the Greatest Theological Question of our Time! Many, Many Believers say: "The Church is Superior to Scripture!"Best-selling author and celebrity scholar of the current generation, Rob Bell, explains it this way."Since the Church came first, and the Church determined the canon of Scripture by voting, the Church is obviously superior to the Scripture - which came 350 years later."[SOURCE: Rob Bell, "The Velvet Elvis; Rethinking the Christian Faith: - (Zondervan: Grand Rapids, 2005) Ibid. 67, 68]. Rob Bell, in fact, rejects "Sola Scriptura" on principle:
Rob Bell reasons and understands - along with much of the 'modern Christian world' - as follows: [1] The Canon of Scripture was not decided until the 4th century, (about AD-386); [2] The Church existed from early in the 1st century; [3] The Church had Doctrine and Authority during these 350 years before there was - one Book, one Bible, one Version that was "Christened-&-Authorized as a Singular, Sola Scriptura"; [4] In fact, it was the living Church that decided: Rob Bell SUMMARIZES: Thus the Church [that] Christ established preceded the singular canonized version of Scripture, and operated without it for 350 years, teaching and deciding doctrinal issues (as in Acts 15) the whole time;
[A]and when the Scriptural canon was established, it was the long-established Church (doing fine without it) who finally decided to have a canonized Scripture. Rob Bell CONCLUDES: The Church came first, was superior to the Scriptural writings from the very beginning, and always had the authority to decide what was and what was not "true Scripture" - at any time.
CHRISTIPEDIA™ Inerrant Scripture: Is "Church" over the Bible? Or is the Bible over the Church? PART-1; (All CHRISTIPEDIA with "INSPIRED-INERRANT!" View of Scripture!) This is the Greatest Theological Question of our Time! As Rob Bell UNDERSTANDS: FACT: Christ Himself established this Church-then-Bible-Canon order and practice;FACT: Christ could have easily written a singular and perfect Gospel account, but He chose NOT to; FACT: The Church met in Council and decided what the Church was to believe, in Acts 15 - 350 years before canonized Scripture - and the Acts 15 Scripture declares that "this seemed good to the Holy Ghost and to us"; FACT: Christ claimed "all authority" and gave His Authority to the "Living Church" in the Great Commission, Matt 28:18-20 FACT: Christ was establishing His order of authority and practice through the Apostles He had chosen, trained, and confirmed with resurrections from the dead. FACT: Since God knows the end from the beginning, He obviously designed, and decreed for His Divine Order to be this way. FACT: God has never changed that established order, so until He does, it still stands supreme! >> First, Christ established His Church; >> Second, the Church established their Scripture (or so it seems to Bell and the Roman Church).
CHRISTIPEDIA™ Inerrant Scripture: Is "Church" over the Bible? Or is the Bible over the Church? PART-1; (All CHRISTIPEDIA with "INSPIRED-INERRANT!" View of Scripture!) This is the Greatest Theological Question of our Time! Rob Bell makes APPLICATION:Ron Bell insists this is "THE PROBLEM!" with continually insisting that one of the absolutes of the Christian faith must be a belief that 'Scripture alone' is our guide. Rob Bell DECLARES: "It sounds nice, but it is not true. In reaction to abuses by the church, a group of believers during a time called the Reformation claimed that we only need the authority of the Bible. But the problem is that we got the Bible from the church voting on what the Bible even is." [SOURCE: Rob Bell, "The Velvet Elvis; Rethinking the Christian Faith: - (Zondervan: Grand Rapids, 2005) Ibid. 67, 68].
Thus Rob Bell takes the same position that the Roman Catholic Church took against the Reformers: That since the Roman Catholic Church (guided by the Holy Spirit) gave us the Bible, the Church [Roman Catholic?] (guided by the Holy Spirit) is authoritative over the Bible. [NOTE: He emphasizes "Guided by the Holy Spirit." we'll deal with is shortly]. Rob Bell, however, expands that idea beyond Rome to any Christian group anywhere struggling with the meaning of the Bible. Rather than rely on the original historical approach to determine the authors' meaning, he trusts that in some manner the Holy Spirit is giving us new light, rather than: ** Seek to establish a clear line of unbroken teaching from Jesus: ** Though His Chosen Apostles, ** Through the early proven Church leaders and theologians (many of whom were martyrs!), ** Through the ages, many of whom were the most dedicated missionaries and scholars known); ** Though the Reformation - with more martyrs, ** To the most dedicated "post-modern" Absolute-Bible-teachers of today.
CHRISTIPEDIA™ Inerrant Scripture: Is "Church" over the Bible? Or is the Bible over the Church? PART-1; (All CHRISTIPEDIA with "INSPIRED-INERRANT!" View of Scripture!) This is the Greatest Theological Question of our Time! Church Superior to Scripture & Christianity 'IS' a 'Lot of Paradoxes':Rob Bell FURTHER declares, Christianity is a Bunch of PARADOXES! Rob Bell explains: 'It is not so much that the Christian faith has a lot of paradoxes, it's that Christianity is a lot of paradoxes:And we cannot resolve a paradox. So the jump in the air turns out to be a leap into the dark; the unknown and unknowable. Paradoxes are like square circles: you can talk about them but such talk reveals precisely nothing.' We give Rob Bell the benefit of doubt, We give Rob Bell the benefit of doubt, that his statements on Christianity being many paradoxes springs from a true and sincere heart, a heart that is seeking and longing to know truth, to remove the "seeming paradoxes".We trust that he is being bravely honest, to admit that he does not understand these many things that "seem to be impossible and paradoxical." If Rob Bell is sincere - and not just a 'secular modernist' mocking God and His Word - we applaud his honesty, few theologians and Bible Scholars admit that they understand very little about Christianity- that they have failed to understand so greatly for so many years that they . . . . . . GIVE UP trying to understand . . . . . . and declare the whole of Christianity - that it is impossible to understand - being 'a bunch of paradoxes'. Few theologians admit to any such amazing, impossible, paradox, EXCEPT for PREDESTINATION:
Here's an example of a commonly held-to-be-paradox: ** Many such Scriptures teach 'absolute predestination', as Romans 9:14 "What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid. Romans 9:15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. Romans 9:16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy. [Romans 9:11-26 - See below: TO FOOTNOTE-1] ** Conversely, many Scriptures teach 'absolute free will': From ancient Israel in Joshua 1:18 and Joshua 24:15 to Jesus in Matthew 10:32, 33 and Paul in Romans 10:13; Predestination does seem to be a great paradox, and as far as we know, it has never been explained except by our own Bible Scholar and Scientist NewtonStein.
[Back to Rob Bell being sincere in his doubt and declaration that Christianity is "a bunch of paradoxes"] We trust and hope this is the case, and hope that Rob Bell is not mocking Christianity from a post-modern liberal-scholarship viewpoint, . . . . . . we hope that he is NOT decreeing Christianity is nothing more than a mass of contradictions which make no sense, . . . . . . and thus the modern Church must depend on the "consensus-politically-correct" version of truth - from homosexuality to many ways to eternal life!
CHRISTIPEDIA™ Inerrant Scripture: Is "Church" over the Bible? Or is the Bible over the Church? PART-1; (All CHRISTIPEDIA with "INSPIRED-INERRANT!" View of Scripture!) This is the Greatest Theological Question of our Time! How to Resolve Biblical Paradoxes!To sort out the "seeming paradoxes" - we recommend 15-20 years of complete isolation from all media, books, preaching-teaching and tradition, with a minimum of 12 hours a day "Sola Scriptura" and several hours of prayer and meditation - or give a bit of attention to those who have done so.Following, is the understanding of just such study and isolation, invested on many mission fields in third-world nations, which has led us that presented below. [NOTE: We are certainly not claiming full-truth in any manner whatsoever, but we do seek - respectfully - to establish a more Scriptural understanding of the Word of God, than it being under the authority of the Church as Mr. Bell has given.
Premises 1-5: Scripture Superior To Church by Origin, Duration, Equity, Divinity, Spirit; FACT-1: God's Word is Superior in ORIGIN: The Origin of Inerrant Truth: "In the beginning was the Word,..." John 1:1 FACT-1-INVERSE: The Church was NOT, in the beginning with God, the Church is not mentioned until Matthew 16, though Acts 7:38 makes a reference to "the Church in the wilderness" in the days of Moses, about 3,000 years after Adam and Eve (using the chronology of the Septuagint).
FACT-2: God's Word is Superior in DURATION: Since the Word was in the beginning with God, it is as ancient as God, and has the duration - backward into 'Preternity' and forward into Eternity FACT-2-INVERSE: The Church did not come for millions of billions of trillions of infinite eons of infinite ages AFTER the Word was established in the beginning by God, The Word of God existed in Great Power and Authority, ruling over the vast, ever-expanding universe; presiding over the many levels of Angels, Seraphim, Kerubim (Cherubim) and Anointed Kerubs (Anointed Cherubs, Eze 28:14), the Four Living Beings who Cry "Holy! Holy! Holy!"; the 'Sword-Bearing' Angels, the 'Interceding' Angels for Children, the Ministering Spirits, etc., (there are more!); The Word of God, the Truth, PRESIDED over all of these beings and administered JUSTICE (as Lucifer was cast out of Heaven before Adam was created and was a 'Fallen Cherub' (see Eze 28:12-19) In fact, the duration of the Church compared to the duration of the Word of God is not even so much as the tiniest speck of sand, compared to all the sand, on all the sea-shores and deserts of all the Earth - with all the sand on all of the planets in the thousands of trillions of Solar Systems, of the 400 billion Galaxies, each with approximately 200-400 billion Suns (Stars)!
FACT-3: God's Word is Superior in DIVINE EQUITY: Not only does God tell us that 'The Word was in the beginning with God', it also declares "The Word WAS God!" John 1:1 This inherently claims The Word still "IS" God, since God cannot change, and thusly, God is The 'Eternal "I-AM" - The Ever-Present, "IMMUTABLE" One (Hebrews 6:18).Thus if God EVER was His Word, He is STILL His Word and will ALWAYS be His Word, and there NEVER was or WILL BE a time when God was NOT or is NOT His Word! Since God being perfect and immutable (Hebrews 6:18) cannot change (Malachi 3:6), 'IF' God "IS NOT" His Word today, THEN He never will be and never was His word. However, since Scripture explicitly declares "the Word WAS God from the Beginning, so God 'IS' His Word today, and God shall ever be His Word. FACT-3-INVERSE: The Church is never "equated with God to be God." Jesus started the Church, Jesus loves the Church, Jesus died for the Church, and Jesus claims the Church is his body, but not the full Christ; You are NOT just your body! You are much more than your body, and your body without a 'head' is a nothing more than a rotting mass of putrefying flesh! WORTHLESS, except for "worm food!"
So is The Church without Christ as the Head!
Even if one considers the Church "supernatural" as the body of Christ, without a "head" - as Christ is the Head of the Church - the body has no capacity to think, decide, reason, 'logic' ["Logos!"], where as the WORD is CHRIST and CHRIST is the WORD!
FACT-4: God's Word is Superior in DIVINITY: Since Jesus is from the beginning and one with the Father, Jesus is Divine. Since the Word was in the beginning with God, and is one with God and was God, the Word is Divine - not ink-on-paper - but Truth, because Jesus is Truth, (and the Way and the Life!). When we believe in Jesus we are believing in Truth, when we submit to Jesus we submit to Truth; FACT-4-INVERSE: The Church is not Divine. The Church is not the "True Divinity of Jesus" any more than your body, arms and limbs are you. Thus if you become a double amputee or quadriplegic, "YOU" as a being, is not diminished in the least! Like wise if you lose all senses, and even memory, coherence and consciousness. If you lose all four limbs; your sight, hearing, and speech, and even your memory, coherence, and consciousness - and must be fed through a tube in the stomach, hooked up to kidney machine and an iron lung on IV's, you are still you - the God-created soul is still there - humanly indefinable. You are MORE than your body! You are STILL an immortal soul with eternal and infinite value - before the Mighty God - EQUAL to any and every other person! Thus with Christ, the Church is His Body, but He is the Head - the brain, the thinking, the knowledge, the understanding, the wisdom, and the "Sum-Total of Truth!" None of these traits of the mind of Christ in totality rest in the believer or the Church; Though we are are being transformed by the renewing of our Minds (Romans 12:1-3), and growing in wisdom, understanding and knowledge and may have some of these as Gifts of the Spirit (I Cor 12): Yet in this life we "See through a glass darkly, and only then, face to face." (I Cor 13).
FACT-5: God's Word is Superior as SPIRIT: Jesus specifically and indisputably decreed The Word of God is spirit! This is such a profound statement that's its depth cannot be discovered and its height cannot be fathomed. God is Life, is Truth, is Honesty, is His Word, so Divinely interwoven that such CAN NOT be separated, that God can NOT change His Word any more that He can Change His Perfection! Since the Word was in the beginning with God, and was God, and is one with God, the Word is Divine - not ink-on-paper - but Truth; not 'Preferred Principles' but ETERNAL LAWS that cannot be broken! FACT-5-INVERSE: The Church is not the Spirit of God. The Church has the Spirit, but is NOT Spirit. The Church is people, real people, imperfect people, and even at times sinning people.Sadly, in a way, Apostle Pail reminds us that "we have this Treasure (Spirit of God) in an Earthen vessel - 2 Corinthians 4:7 (made of Dust as David said, Psalm 103:14) . CHRISTIPEDIA™ Inerrant Scripture: Is "Church" over the Bible? Or is the Bible over the Church? PART-1; (All CHRISTIPEDIA with "INSPIRED-INERRANT!" View of Scripture!) This is the Greatest Theological Question of our Time! Challenge to Rob Bell: Personally, it seems to us at NewtonStein that the First Century Apostles and Prophets had an anointing of the Holy Spirit that we do not have today - at least in degree: > Verifiable resurrections from the dead, > Verifiable deaths by the Holy Spirit, from lying to the Spirit, (Acts 5) > Multitudes healed "every one" - just from the shadow of Peter passing by: Acts 5:14-16 And believers were the more added to the Lord, multitudes both of men and women.) Insomuch that they brought forth the sick into the streets, and laid them on beds and couches, that at the least the shadow of Peter passing by might overshadow some of them. There came also a multitude out of the cities round about unto Jerusalem, bringing sick folks, and them which were vexed with unclean spirits: and they were healed every one. > Special Miracles by the hand of Paul, even healing from touching handkerchiefs and aprons Paul had worn, Acts 19:12 So that from his body were brought unto the sick handkerchiefs or aprons, and the diseases departed from them, and the evil spirits went out of them. We further see this extra-anointing of the Holy spirit when they met in Acts 15, where after MUCH initial disputing, they ALL had their say until done talking, and they ALL agreed with the judgement-opinion-recommendation; [NOTE: This was not a "sentence" - as James was neither high-priest nor pope. James was not even among the 12, never had a vision, never did a miracle, never started a Church and only wrote one little book of Scripture, never went on a mission trip and never even recognized Jesus as Messiah when He Ministered in person. Certainly Peter, Paul and John were superior to James in Scriptural-gospel credibility. By Choosing James to devise the solution, it showed humility of the Apostles and benefited in various ways].
Furthermore, that which pleased all of the disciples, also pleased the whole Church. Acts 15:22 Then pleased it the apostles and elders, with the whole church,...
CHRISTIPEDIA™ Inerrant Scripture: Is "Church" over the Bible? Or is the Bible over the Church? PART-1; (All CHRISTIPEDIA with "INSPIRED-INERRANT!" View of Scripture!) This is the Greatest Theological Question of our Time! Challenge to Rob Bell: If he believes we have the same manifestation of the Holy Spirit today as the first generation, let him do as follows: > Call a conference, perhaps to sort out the many schools of belief on The Revelation; > Let everyone who wants, attend; > Let everyone who wants to dispute, do so; > Let the Holy Spirit give one person the understanding that ALL the others agree to; > Let this be presented to the "whole church" and received their unanimous vote as well: IF Rob Bell can produce an Acts 15 Jerusalem Council WITH Acts 15 Results - as they claim the Holy Ghost led them - we will agree with his teaching that the Holy Spirit is leading us in a "very enlightening manner" . . .
. . . and will very seriously consider accepting any thing his council decides for my personal doctrine. However, since the modern Church - leaders or the followers - are about as far from any kind of unanimously agreement and understanding on 'any doctrine of any kind' - this evidence indicates, the "latter day rain prophesied by the New Testament and Old Covenant prophets has not arrived yet.
Latter Rain Out-pouring of the Holy Spirit The generation may well come - and we pray for it - when the great first generation miracles and supernatural manifestation are again seen on this Earth, when many thousands are saved by the healing of one well-know lame man, leaping and praising God all over town (Acts 3-4).The healing of someone like Joni Erikson Tada, Larry Flint, Reagan aide James Brady, or Muhammed Ali - someone whom many people know - would get the new season of miracle started.
We Ask Rob Bell to ConsiderFACT: It is simple to 'Call for a Council' as they did in Acts 15.FACT: It is NOT easy to achieve Acts 15 results! FACT: Neither the great Early Councils starting with Nicaea in AD 325, nor any that followed, had the blessing and anointing of the Holy Spirit as did Acts 15, whether discussing the divinity of Christ, Antinomianism, Arianism, Nestorianism, Gnosticism, or even the Bible canon - neither in AD 385 or Trent in 1545-1563etc. FACT: None of them had Acts 15 Spirit Anointing, and instead of producing a near-perfect unity, ALL of them caused further division: from the early days through the Councils of Trent in 1545-1563 to Vatican-II of 1961-1962, or any of the more recent protestant or non-denominational councils. FACT: even the early Councils seeking to decide canon [Which God NEVER said to do (more on this later)] did not have the Acts 15 evidence of the calling, anointing and leading of the Holy Spirit.
CHRISTIPEDIA™ Inerrant Scripture: Is "Church" over the Bible? Or is the Bible over the Church? PART-1; (All CHRISTIPEDIA with "INSPIRED-INERRANT!" View of Scripture!) This is the Greatest Theological Question of our Time! Canon Dispute Existed from the Very Beginning: [1] Orthodox Jews, Messianic Jews, and non-Jews, did NOT agree on the Old Covenant Books, authors, order, names, or even categories of writings;
[2] The Syriac Peshita, The Masoretic, The Septuagint (which Jesus, Paul and Apostles used), the later Roman Catholic Bible of Athanasius (mostly responsible for the canon of the New Testament), the Catholic Scholar of the Latin Vulgate, Jerome; and the great scholar Augustine - ALL disagreed on the canon of Scripture!
[3] From early days, there have been The Jewish Masoretic Bible, The Syrian-Aramaic Peshita, The Ethiopian Canon (the largest one), The Roman Catholic, The Greek Orthodox, the Eastern Orthodox-Armenian - and today - the Reformation Protestant canons of Scripture. ** Thus we have at least Seven-Official Bible Canons, all but the Protestant existing for over 1,000 years, several 1,500 to 1,700 years, and the Septuagint Jesus used, nearly 2,300 years.
[4] Our "three-fold question" to Rob Bell is simple? "Which Canon?" . . . of "which Church?" . . . by "which Council?"
[5] The truth is, there has never been a "whole Church Acts 15 Jerusalem-type Council - truly called, blessed, and anointed by the Holy Spirit with Acts 15 results. ** It is possible. We are not about to limit God at all. We are simply saying it hasn't happened since - that Acts 15:1-15 is as unique as and Pentecost, Acts 2:1-15, and the results of each.
CHRISTIPEDIA™ Inerrant Scripture: Is "Church" over the Bible? Or is the Bible over the Church? PART-1; (All CHRISTIPEDIA with "INSPIRED-INERRANT!" View of Scripture!) This is the Greatest Theological Question of our Time! We ask Mr. Bell to help Christianity by "Defining Canon" for us: > Who decided Scripture should be canonized? > Who decided, who should decide that? > Who decided criteria to be accepted for canon? > Who decided, who should decide that? > Who decided when this canon was achieved? > Who decided, who should decide that? > To any answer above, we ask: how do we know this? > To any answer to that question, we ask: how can we be sure? > If answers are provided for all of the above, how would we know this is from God, just because some group of modernists 'say so'?
It appears Mr. Bell has Accepted the Roman Catholic VersionWe further ask Mr. Bell of this matter: (A) Since you accept the Roman Catholic Council decision on the Canon of Scripture; (B) Do you also accept Roman Catholic Council decisions on ALL other doctrines? (C) If NOT . . . when, why, how, and by whom, did the Roman Catholic Church LOSE their spiritual authority; AND . . . >> Who says when and why the Roman Church lost spiritual authority? >> Who decided they had spiritual jurisdiction over the Roman Church? >> How do you know this is true? >> And if you prove this true, how do you know this was God's Will?
(D) If you say yes - that you do accept Roman Catholic Council decisions on all doctrines - you have clarified your thinking for us, and and we now understand your positions! (E) If you accept 'some decisions' but not others, what are your scholarly criteria and Scriptural conditions applied consistently and logically across all Roman Catholic Councils, of all ages to do as follows:
>> (1) To accept some Roman Council Decisions as Spiritually true, Holy Spirit led, authoritative decisions equal to Holy Scripture; >> (e) Reject some Roman Council Decisions as not Spiritually true, Holy Spirit led, authoritative decisions equal to Holy Scripture;
Initial conclusion on Rob Bell's Theorem: The previous defenses of the Word of God are some simple facts of logic and reasoning with a few Scriptures.
Part-II, Presents what God's Word is from His own mouth, from His own Holy, inspired, inerrant Scripture. Part-III, Presents 12 scriptural Axioms on Inspiration and inerrancy: how it is proved. Part-IV, Presents how God establishes "His own canon" . . . of "His Own Word."
CHRISTIPEDIA™ Inerrant Scripture: Is "Church" over the Bible? Or is the Bible over the Church? PART-1; (All CHRISTIPEDIA with "INSPIRED-INERRANT!" View of Scripture!) This is the Greatest Theological Question of our Time! Why God never Commanded a Canon of Scripture! [NOTE: Canon is not a Scriptural word. Canon is a "standard" (check all the dictionaries you care too), Thus a canon is an outside standard.The reason God never commanded any kind of canonization of Scripture - neither by Catholics nor Protestants, by the Apostles or anyone else, is that there can be no outside standard to compare the Word of God to - which Word was God, is God, and it will always be that God is His Word! Please come again soon; 500 pages being added daily!
CHRISTIPEDIA™ Inerrant Scripture: Is "Church" over the Bible? Or is the Bible over the Church? PART-1; (All CHRISTIPEDIA with "INSPIRED-INERRANT!" View of Scripture!) This is the greatest Theological Question of our Time! FOOTNOTES: FOOTNOTE-1 Romans 9:11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;) 12 It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger. 13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated. 14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid. 15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. 16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy. 17 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth. 18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth. 19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will? 20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? 21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? 22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: 23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory, 24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles? 25 As he saith also in Osee (Hosea), I will call them my people, which were not my people; and her beloved, which was not beloved. 26 And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people; there shall they be called the children of the living God. RETURN TO TEXT;
"God's Goals" For This World! Does God Achieve His Goals? OR, does Satan achieve his goals? (All Teaching- and Commentary is from "INSPIRED-INERRANT!" View of Scripture!) The most IMPORTANT "3-QUESTION QUIZ" you'll ever Take?
The Adversary’s Goals:
SCRIPTURE: "The ‘Devil’ ... walketh about seeking whom he may DEVOUR." I Pet 5:8 SCRIPTURE: "The ‘Thief’ (Devil) cometh not but for to steal, to kill and to DESTROY." John 10:10 QUESTION: Do you Believe Satan the Adversary ___Succeeds? Or ___Fails?
God the Father’s Goals:
SCRIPTURE: "For God sent NOT His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world though Him might be SAVED! See John 3:16 John 3:17SCRIPTURE: "Beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, ... The Lord is ... NOT willing that any should perish, but that ALL should come to repentance. II Pet 3:9 QUESTION: Do you Believe God the Father ___Succeeds? Or ___ Fails? God the Son’s Goals:
SCRIPTURE: "For the Son of Man is come to seek and to SAVE that which is lost!" Luk 19:10 "For I came NOT to judge the world, but to SAVE the world. John 12:47 SCRIPTURE: "And I, if I be lifted up from the Earth, I WILL DRAW ALL men unto Me." Joh 12:32 QUESTION: Do you Believe God the Son (Jesus Christ): ___Succeeds? Or ___ Fails?
God the Spirit’s Goals:
SCRIPTURE: Jesus declares: "'I WILL' send him (Holy Spirit) unto you, and when He is come 'He WILL' testify of Me: John 14:26SCRIPTURE: "He WILL reprove the world [convict, convince, correct] of sin, of righteousness, and of judgment: John 16:7 SCRIPTURE: (1) Of sin, because they believe not on me; ... (2) Of righteousness, because I go to my Father; ...(3) Of judgment, because the 'Prince of this World' is judged.[A] John 16:8-10
QUESTION: Do you think God the Spirit: ___Succeeds Or ___Fails? WHO ACHIEVES THEIR STATED GOALS? GOD or Satan? If you believe
God the Father,
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