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John Piper has been so disturbed he couldn't continue to function in ministry has been on a 'leave of absence' approaching a year.

John Piper stirred up a little controversy last spring when he invited Rick Warren to the Desiring God conference. He's been flirting with the Jim-Wallis-Socialists ever since, and as of this autumn - 2010 - he seems to have jumped into bed with them - whole hog.

We do hope only as a figure-of-speech, but given the rapidly coming-out-of-the-closet-among "metro-sexual evangelicals modernists" . . . who really knows what goes on in extended, unaccountable absence?

INTERVIEWER: You received some negative feedback for inviting him (Rick Warren)

PIPER: It was real risky. I don't even know if I did the right thing.

If somebody said, "Are you sure you should have invited him?"

I would have to answer "No."

It seems Piper needed a "name" to help open his new school, and a more liberal approach to attract the "young and open minded"

PIPER: Also, we have our inaugural convocation for Bethlehem College and Seminary, and I was thinking, what would I see happen there? What kind of a mind do I want these young men and women to develop?

You dedicated a book to Mark Noll and Nathan Hatch, and you reference Noll's Scandal of the Evangelical Mind, adding that you want Christians to think through a biblical lens. So why did you look at "thinking" through that lens?

When I asked Mark to do the foreword I told him, "You're going to recognize what this is—this is tribal scholarship, this is tribal theology. It's all I know to do." WhenI say I'm not a scholar, you know who I'm measuring myself against: Mark Noll. Mark Noll, to me, is the epitome of what a scholar is. He's so intimidating in his capacities, his scope, his breadth, his comprehensiveness, his nuanced seeing of everything. I really am limited. People think I'm not; I am.

But what I can do is take a paragraph in this book (paging through his Bible) and really milk it. I took that approach because that's all I know to do. I'm a preacher. If I am honest, I would say it's important to do it that way. I looked through a bunch of other books that are out there on the life of the mind; nobody does it this way.

It's just a little contribution to all those other books to say, you know, if you take the Bible really seriously, even the texts that look anti-intellectual, it really presses us to think.

For the simple people like me, for somebody to convince me about that would be really good. Because they're going to say, "Oh, to be faithful here I have to develop."

Why not invite someone like Mark Noll or Nathan Hatch to speak at your conference?

Because I don't think they're good communicators. I've thought very often about Mark, and then I think, "Mark is kind of dry." I watched him give lectures at Vanderbilt and I watched him give lectures on race at Princeton. I thought, "This is good stuff." But he reads.

You invited Rick Warren; would you say he exemplifies "thinking"?

No, I don't think he exactly exemplifies that. But he uses the bible. He quoted 50 Scriptures from memory. Unbelievable, his mind is Vesuvius. So I asked him what impact reading Jonathan Edwards had on him.

What these authors like Karl Barth and Edwards do for him is give him a surge of theological energy that then comes through his wiring. What I wanted to do with Rick is force him to talk about thinking so pragmatists out there can say, "A lot of thinking goes into what he does."

You received some negative feedback for inviting him.

It was real risky. I don't even know if I did the right thing. If somebody said, "Are you sure you should have invited him?" "No." I think the first thing I'd say—maybe the only thing—is I think he's been slandered. I think we probably need to work harder at getting him right.


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