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A Christian Woman of the IFB movement weights in:
My heart groans for her tragedy. What she is facing is far worse than what we went through. Even typing this out, I have a lump in my throat and tears in my eyes for her.
Leaving a legalistic community, when a fall like this is the reason for it, must be such a lonely departure. Jack was a pastor of a well known mega church in their community. Cindy won’t be able to go anywhere without people knowing who she is.
I pray the media leaves her alone.
While I am compassionate towards Cindy, I can say without hesitation that Jack has to answer for his foolishness.
When my husband and I went through our difficulties, I never asked for God to let things go. I knew that having my husband be held accountable and to face his own foolishness head on was the best thing for him....the best thing for both of us.
Jack Schaap needs to face the laws of the land and face whatever justice comes from this.
One thing that many people are saying is that God will hold Jack accountable.
Part of this human world is that God ordained government to punish criminals and as such as we need to let the system do what they were ordained to do. The authorities are doing their job and we need to let them do that.
My perspective as a spiritual counselor:
As a spiritual counselor, I have to work between my motherly emotions and my spiritual calling. This is not easy to do, yet I do feel it’s an important spiritual exercise for any spiritual leader to take seriously.
This is where victims usually get angry, because the blood of Jesus “shouldn’t let this go”.
All of a sudden the “Once saved always saved” doctrine is doubted and flat out rejected.
Angry people want Jack Schaap to either go to hell or be punished by the fullest extent of the law. Even at that, their anger won’t be satisfied.
What does that say about us if the thought of him going to hell doesn’t satisfy our anger?
Do we easily forget about our own short comings?
Do we forget to be thankful that our own condition of sin has been paid for through the death of Christ our Lord?
Have we forsaken a grateful heart for the fact that we have received life through the conquering of the grave and the resurrected life of Christ?
May we take heed, lest we also fall.
If Jack Schaap, a premiere Independent Fundamental Baptist preacher, can fall then anyone can. Jack was raised in a strict fundamental religion that defined everything as black and white. Many rules were in place to insure that he would always live a ‘godly’ life.
Yet, in the midst of all that Christian ‘perfection’, he still fell. You see, the Christian bubble of sterilization doesn’t work.
Oh we can avoid drinking, drugs, and porn quite easily if that was all we had to avoid.
However, this was not all those in the IFB movement have to avoid.
They also have to avoid most television, contemporary Christian music, Christian stores outside of their own church bookstore, . . .
. . .,family members who don’t attend an IFB church, bathing suits, the ballet, the beach, movie theaters, magazines in the checkout stand aisle, girls who wear pants (shorts, short-shorts, skimpy and near-see-thru tops), and on and on the list goes. . . .
Even relatives and next door neighbors. . .
. . . Many not even out of high school. . .
. . . Some not out of Middle School . . .
They have so much to worry about avoiding that all their mental and spiritual energy is being used up trying to avoid things that really don’t need that much attention.
It’s not going to upset God if a woman fails to wear nylons to church or misses church on Sunday to go to a family reunion.
It’s not going to upset God if a man hates wearing a suit and isn’t fond of door knocking.
All the legalistic requirements to be acceptable in an IFB church is counterproductive to living the Kingdom life that Christ ushered into this New Covenant.
Christ came to shower us and cleanse us with his grace. If Jack had ever listened to what real grace is, then perhaps he would not have ended up where he is now.
Nevertheless, there’s always a purpose for the fall of what people used to call ‘a great man’.
Pharaoh was said to be a great leader too, but Moses came in and brought the message of deliverance.
In order for people to be delivered, the leader who keeps them in bondage must fall.
The Holy Spirit sends people to such leaders and demands freedom, but when the leaders keep refusing, when they keep insisting they are right in their own eyes, then eventually they will face the reality that God has intended for them. Sometimes a great fall is the beginning of an experience in humility and down to earth grace.
When Jack Schaap came to our former church:
It’s ironic that just a few short years ago, Schaap came to my former church and preached a message on this very topic. He preached on pride and humility and ironic as it sounds, his two messages confirmed for us that we needed to leave.
Not that his messages were bad, in fact they were good.
The messages he preached revealed to us that humility was not within the church we were at and in order to save our own family from destruction, we needed to leave.
We actually sent word to Jack to ask for assistance, but he didn’t return our calls. It’s a good thing he didn’t. We were able to leave and get our girls out of the youth group before the second violation of a teen girl took place.
We left shortly after Jack’s visit to our former church and now that same church is in a second lawsuit due to two former staff men who violated teen girls.
I’m eternally grateful that we got our teen girls out of there! I don’t feel that I owe Jack anything for that visit, I give all thanks to God alone.
So the next thing I want to say is not from a heart of gratitude for Jack, but rather a heart of gratitude for the grace of God.
Get off the milk, because there’s meat to bite into:
This is a hard topic for many, especially someone new in their walk. Paul said that there was so much more he wanted to say, but the people weren’t ready to hear it.
This intense topic and concept I’m about to share is not milk for a babe, it’s meat. If you’re not ready for this meat, it will choke you. If you’re not ready for meat, you will reject it.
If you’re a victim of the IFB movement it will be difficult, but there is hope for justice and for grace.
You see, justice and grace are not two opposing sides.
Justice and grace work together to bring mercy.
Justice is a balanced way to bring discipline to a person who needs it.
It is meant to bring them to repentance as well as to genuine grace.
Humans are not required to give grace the way God gives it.
If it were up to us, especially victims, we may not ever give mercy or grace. It’s not our obligation or responsibility to be as gracious as God is. I don’t want to place a burden on you that would be impossible to bear. We could never give grace the way Christ can, if it were possible he would not have needed to die.
When Christ came to die and resurrect, he brought reconciliation to God. Every man, woman, and child can boldly go to God without being afraid and know for certain they could receive grace. This is for the purpose of establishing a two way relationship with God. All of us have equal access to God, because of Christ.
He is our mediator. So we preach the Gospel of reconciliation as Paul did. Both the perpetrator and the victim have equal access to God and equal grace in their relationships with Him. This does not mean that abusive people will not be held accountable in this lifetime.
This does not mean the victims of this world won’t be affirmed. This spiritual reconciliation is a personal endeavor for individual relationships with God.
In this lifetime, we live in this human world with literal laws that we must honor. Christ said to obey the laws of the land and so we must. God ordained the government and so we must allow the authorities to do their work.
Each Christian is called to stand for victims any time they are victimized. Jesus spoke of compassion for the Samaritan man (victim), the women taken in adultery (perpetrator), and the prodigal son (perpetrator) who was welcomed home.
Many will ask where the grace is in our human relationships in regards to Jack and others who have violated people.
To stand by a perpetrator as they face their music is not for everyone!
A person of faith that is strong in both the spiritual realm and the physical realm can firmly walk alongside a man like Jack to be of support in them facing their consequences, but it does NOT mean such a person of faith is condoning what he did.
It takes a strong person who can hold them accountable while guiding them to understand what went wrong and how to find penance. It’s important to hold them firmly accountable, facing the reality of what they’ve done in order for them to grow and mature.
If we, as Christians, can not give Jack Schaap room to be repentant then we have to face the idea that maybe we don’t really understand the Gospel. People who have been infected by the perverted ‘gospel’ that Jack preached are less likely to give him the room he needs.
He taught for years that there is no room for sin. He boxed everyone in and now he has boxed himself into the same limited space with everyone else.
Close quarters like that can be quite cramped. This is what happens when we try to live by the Law. The apostle Paul said that once the law came, sin revived.
If we want a true revival of the power of Christ that brings repentance, grace, and humility then we need to be willing to live it out.
The government is involved and the FBI is very well aware of
what mind control is and how it affects a congregation. Let them do their investigation.
If you have any information, experiences, or otherwise that could be of assistance then call them directly.
God will not punish you for doing so. I know that First Baptist Church has Atty. Gibbs and his son working on this case, but they are there to protect the institution of FBC.
It is very different than a lawyer being there to protect individual victims. In order for them to protect the institution, they need to control information from leaving the congregation. Therefore, victims are not safe to give their information to them.
This is a time when people need to decide if they want to protect a building licensed by a 501c3 or if they want help for victims.
Victims need an outside advocate that can be purely in favor of assisting the victims and not be tainted by needing to protect the institution.
In a high profile case like this, there is no doubt in my mind that people knew and didn’t do a single tiny thing.
Penn State anyone?
Tell your information directly to the police.
It’s a delicate matter to be concerned for both sides of this situation.
As a minister, our utmost desire is to reconcile mankind to God in Christ. This means all mankind, even those who have been abusive.
However, we also have a responsibility to victims and to make sure they are safe and protected. The apostle Paul had an issue with two men at one time and he said that he ‘gave them over to satan for their punishment’.
There are times when we need to hand abusive people over to their own devices, allow them to suffer their consequences, so they can learn true remorse and repentance.
A victim is not required to be a part of the perpetrator’s journey through his own personal self inflicted hell.
Victims are free to walk away and have no contact. They are not required to let it go, to drop the charges, or to face their abuser with offers of forgiveness. Once the victim finds healing, they have the option to make those decisions, but they are not obligated to.
For people who feel torn between the two parties, I admonish them to side with the victim totally. For those who feel the strongest desire to support the perpetrator, then do so WISELY without condemning the victim and her supporters for what befalls the man now.
There’s a lot of anger and hurt going on in the world due to this travesty. Some might say that if you weren’t a member of FBC then you shouldn’t worry about it. I strongly disagree.
Jack Schaap has influenced IFB pastors and teens all over the world to further the anti-women dogma that infects congregations.
Their methods of church governance morphed by the twisted scriptures creates a toxic environment where this kind of abuse thrives. The Christian community does not end at the doors of FBC. The Christian community is global and when one suffers, we all suffer.
We need to collectively put our feet down with how the IFB movement (and many other churches) create their institutions with toxic teachings where accountability is sorely lacking. Those who are leaders need to stand firm and proclaim from the rooftops that wolves have entered in, how they entered in, and how to get out!
So while the government deals with this matter, we’ll continue to preach the true Gospel of reconciliation, protect victims, and teach others how to protect themselves.
Take the time needed to heal from the abuse you and your loved ones have suffered, don’t rush your grief. It doesn’t happen over night.
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